Simon,
You're right this reasoning like any other can and probably would be twisted and abused. I would though err on the safe side and do what was necessary to prevent tragedies of any kind be they child endangerment or terrorism.
It has been my experience that "innocent" people seldom find themselves in situations like this. Most times there is evidence of past crimes and or behavior that lend credence to suspicions and therefor to me would allow for the "intensive interrogations" needed to preserve life and peace.
Sixy,
Inspite of yourself one day you will have to agree that there are black and white issues, right and wrong, good and evil, and someone has to take a stand against the corruption in the legal system. How you can so off handedly dismiss the need to limit the srtict adherance to civil rights laws when circumstances like that are going on does not speak well for your level of human kindness and compassion.
I had not wanted this to turn into a political thread but for some all roads lead there.
As far as "out badding the bad guys" I'm not going there. I think everybody that knows me knows what I would do.
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Who's rights prevail?
by Thunder Rider insearch for missing kids turns up nothing .
trenton, mo - a search using dogs and a scuba team turned up no new leads in the disappearance of two independence children.
law enforcement has been looking for 7-year-old lindsay porter and 6-year-old samuel porter since june sixth.
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Who's rights prevail?
by Thunder Rider insearch for missing kids turns up nothing .
trenton, mo - a search using dogs and a scuba team turned up no new leads in the disappearance of two independence children.
law enforcement has been looking for 7-year-old lindsay porter and 6-year-old samuel porter since june sixth.
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"Or there is information we are not privy to about the wife, and perhaps he is rescuing his children from an abusive situation."
Good point Talesin. But if the children were all right I would think he would at least have stressed that to the authorities.
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by Thunder Rider insearch for missing kids turns up nothing .
trenton, mo - a search using dogs and a scuba team turned up no new leads in the disappearance of two independence children.
law enforcement has been looking for 7-year-old lindsay porter and 6-year-old samuel porter since june sixth.
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Search for Missing Kids Turns Up Nothing
Trenton, MO - A search using dogs and a scuba team turned up no new leads in the disappearance of two Independence children. Law enforcement has been looking for 7-year-old Lindsay Porter and 6-year-old Samuel Porter since June sixth. Their father, Daniel Porter, has been arrested because he did not return the children to their mother.
The search was conducted Thursday near Trenton in Grundy County. Porter was arrested June tenth at an abandoned farm southeast of the search area. Porter is charged in Jackson County with two counts of parental kidnapping, and is being held with no bail.
Police say he has not cooperated with their efforts to find the children.
This article was taken from a local news station website. Porter failed to return his children after a visitation. The kids have been missing since and he won't tell the police where they are.
Why are they not beating the $#!^ out of him? Do his civil rights outweigh the childrens needs or the mothers needs?
I think this reflects on a larger problem in this country. In our pursuit of civil rights for all we have lost all sense of justice, right and wrong. Its time to re-evaluate where we are going as a society.
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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By killing the infadels they get a ticket to paradise????
A lot of us have heard the "paradise" lie.
If this administration does not retaliate with swift deadly and decisive action I fear there may be many more executed americans.
I'm thinking military executions for convicted alqeda members followed by a tactical nuke in the area where Bil Laden is suspected to be hiding.
On a side point, the Iraqi's must see that Americans are not the only targets of the terrorists and militant muslim factions in the middle east as they have taken a few casualties of late.
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Poetry anyone?
by Thunder Rider ingat the itch and rattled off a few poems and just thought i'd share.
enjoy .
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Thanx Chris
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Poetry anyone?
by Thunder Rider ingat the itch and rattled off a few poems and just thought i'd share.
enjoy .
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Gat the itch and rattled off a few poems and just thought I'd share.
Enjoy
Thunder
Slate gray breezes
Flapping foliage
Waves in the grass
May may not be the gentlest of months
And June will be hot.
Fixated on the frost she pouts
The brightness below belies its presence
What to do, what to do
Accept or deny, accentuate or conceal
In twists and waves it cascades over shoulders and down her back
He sees not what troubles her
He is blinded by the fire below the frost.
The light of truth
Throws shadows of intent
Past deeds been done
For reasons unclear
The Big Picture yet unfinished
As painters come and go
Leaving brush strokes melded
Some conservative, short, precise
Some liberal, loose, sweeping
The masterpiece in progress
The land of the free
The home of the brave
America the beautiful.
Crimson adultery
Alike & Different
Full-bodied & Biting
Smooth & Mellow
Shiraz & Merlot
I could learn to like this.
Pursed lips she reprimands him
?I don?t wanna go to bed?
Dark eyes beckon a reprieve
Even as eye lids flutter exhausted
She does not get her way
She still loves her Grampy
A tree of purple blaze
But came one spring a wicked gale
That other trees did raze
That brutal wind proved much too strong
The tree trunk?s innards shattered
Its life did seep from fractured bark
Its leaves hung torn and tattered
Despite best efforts done in vain
The tree was brought to naught
Left only there were sucker limbs
Protruding from its stalk
Bent and braided into one
Tied upright they grew
Now again we have that purple blaze
Our lost tree born anew.
Sipping his Mocha Latte by the window of the Perfect Cup
Cherub faced boy stares into his furrowed face
Doing his best to incite a smile
Tiny feet propelling him in circles around the coffee house
As the level in his cup drops
The lines in his face soften
As the cherub bounces gleefully behind couch and chair, hide and seek
Despite himself he cannot help but smile
Whether the sweetness of cherub or beverage one cannot be sure
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What makes marraiges last
by desib77 inmy husband and i have been married a little over a year now and it has been the happiest year of my life.
i have finally found someone that i truly love and that truly loves me.
he's also my best friend.
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Be the kind of person YOU would want to come home to.
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"SPECIAL K" IS NOW AN EMPRESS!!
by bebu inall hail empress special k!
2000 posts of warmth, humor and love.
surely she will be a benevolent ruler.
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Congrats Special K
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Getting "real" in personal relationships.................
by Sunnygal41 in"...generally, by the time you are real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby.
but these things don't matter at all, because once you are real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand..." the skin horse in "the velveteen rabbit" .
i was killing some time looking at different topics on the forum this morning, and i came across this wonderful, poignant comment in the infp thread gretchen started.
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How true ......"to people that don't understand"
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Higher Education
by eiu2003 inwell, let's try posting a topic.
one of the things i felt i missed out on while i was a witness, other than wild sex when young is higher education.
i quit hs to pioneer and now have just recently finished a college degree and am still working on my masters, but i find myself resenting that i have had to do this all at night and while in my forties.
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Waiting ...nope that was just rude.
Both Thunder and I are going for our degree, I am almost finished with my Associates and he is doing Biomedical informatics. I will be going on for my BA and maybe more ..... Both of us are writers but I DO NOT give a rats patoooty if my posts are grammatically correct. I do try to be articulate and spell correctly but when it comes down to it I don't care, I spend enough time in the real world being articulate and precise....so you all get the fodder LOL As far as resentment I did that but now I am embrassing my education, I have been published, I have read for the Board of Trustees at the college and at a Writers seminar and downtown. We will be doing reading here in KC and Chicago. I am a historian with Phi Theta Kappa which is the honor society. Do I wish I was younger and doing this....nah I wouldn't have grown children telling me how proud they are of me...that in itself ROCKS
ooops didn't realize I had logged in under Thunder this is me Sheila M